OK, I know something about cups and balls.
But, I know little about cups.
I am working on a one cup routine standing by a table.
I need a cup I don't have.
I am sure there is one out there that will do.
So, I am appealing to you to point this out to me.
The cup I seek will hold the final load either wedged into the cup or Chop Cup style.
The ball should rest high enough to allow three small balls to rest under the load without raising the cup up off the table.
I generally use 3/4 inch balls but since I am planning on selling this rouitne, they might need to be bigger.
I suppose there should be an indent on the bottom so balls placed there remain there.
Wood is probably better because it doesn't reflect. However, now this is not a major issue.
I looked over many cups presented on this forum. It just makes my head spin.
Thanks ahead of time.
Al Schneider

A "Traditional" style perhaps? A tall, tapered cup like the one Johnny Paul used might work. I think Pete Biro had some made and they're probably sold by Stevens Magic. Others would include the Harries "Bosco" style. The steep, straight sides should hold a load wedged in fairly well and still allow some space below for the working balls.

If you decide you want to go with a Bosco, let me know. I have a single Bosco cup, the others were stolen a while ago and I've had no use for this single one and never will, I  imagine.

Sounds interesting.
However, I was hoping to find a standard product to practice with.
Then, if I do develop something wonderful I could write about it and tell the reader to buy the cups and balls from so and so.
So, I guess I am looking for a tapered cup single cup that someone is offering.
I guess I will scan all the things discussed here more carefully.
Thanks
Al Schneider

Hello Al, I have one of your DVDs and I really enjoy watching your routine and cannot wait to see your one cup routine.

Hopefully your next DVD will include Closed-Captioning or Subtitles, it would help me and many others.

Many thanks
Madkiki
Keith Mitchell

Standard sized Don Alan chop cup fits all your requirement. I've wedge loaders up there. Three VERY large smaller balls fit under the loader nicely. It's a big darned cup. I've quit doing the chop cup. If you want to try mine, say the word. I'd charge you . . .

Whatever it cost me to ship it off. If it doesn't work out send it back.

KG

A Riser traditional or an RnT II Tall Traditional will allow a tennis ball to wedge fit into the upper regions of the cup. You can put a nominally 3/4" ball under the cup in this condition.

Gary Animal is working on a new cup design that will hold a baseball wedged in the top with room below for working balls. Since he's an independent operator, not a pre-packaged "three in a set" kind of guy, you can probably buy singles from him. Since he hand spins these, it's even easier as he doesn't have to match the sets as closely as he does now.

What size final load. I could knock up an aluminium test cup for you.  I think it needs to take 1 inch balls under the wedged load. Also is this cup to be chopped . Better if not as I do not have any magnets. Do you want a straight sided cup or something with nice curves. I feel a slight curve looks better and the load will still wedge.  The can easily be made in copper or brass . Wood is a silly idea for such a cup but possible.

I have a cup that might work for you -- one of a set of 8, so I can spare one.  I have used them for some routines and it handles well. H-31/2 " Lip - 21/2"  Base 11/2".  It is brass with nickel plating except for the scrolled designs on the outside.  Quite beautiful.  The Bottom has  a 1/8" lip to keep a ball from rolling -- it will Stack a sponge ball or a 3/4" Crochetted.  (I don't stack in my routine with 1" & 1/1/2" balls.)  A 2" Load wedges nicely with room for 1" balls beneath.

I will gift it to you is you pay the shipping.  I found a magnet in my collection that would Chop it glued to the outside base.  I'll send that also and you can try it with wax before deciding.  Just send me a finished product if it works.

This type of Cup in made in India and is fairly common -- usually with a nice Pitcher, so you should be able to find a manufacturer.  I can take a photo is you like.