Hi everyone!
I own a Mendoza Heavy Gauge Aluminum Combo Cup. They look great and work fine with 1 1/8" balls. Unfortunately, I'm not used and don't like to work with such sized balls. Personally, I prefer to work with 3/4" or 7/8" balls. I checked with RNT2 to know if the Mendoza Cups work well with smaller balls but, quite strangely, they answered they don't know. One of the most interesting feature, during the Mendoza routine, is the phase in which the chopped ball is placed on the saddle of the regular cup and then covered by the chopped cup, causing a beatiful penetration effect. I'm afraid with smaller balls this effect couldn't come to a good end. Also, how about the realese from the chopped cup of smaller, ligther balls? Too many words, just to ask: has anyone experienced the Mendoza Combo Cups with small balls (3/4" or 7/8")?  I deeply appreciate any help or advice. Thanks a lot to everyone.

WingChun, welcome to CupsCon!

Putting the chopped ball on a regular cup is a very nice move.
But your question about the different sized balls is tough.  I hope someone can answer it for you.

Tom

WingChun/Tom… I will try to see how the Mendoza Cups work with a smaller ball for that move tonight. I am thinking that it won’t work (too much attic space).

Thanks,
Bruce

Hi Tom, thank You very much for Your help. It's really kind of You to check and try with the smaller balls. Maybe the 7/8" balls will work. I'll wait for Your findings in the next post. I'm in debt with You. Giuseppe.

Sorry Bruce, I addressed to You as Tom. Anyway, I'll take a chance to say hello and thanks to Tom, too. Giuseppe/WingChun.

Giuseppe/WingChun… No problem, you like Cups so you are among friends. Welcome to CupsCon.

Bruce

Giuseppe/WingChun….. Sorry to report that the experiment was a bust, the Mendoza Cup would not pick up the ball from atop the regular Cup.

The only gaffed ball that I had in the size range that you mentioned was a Monkey Fist Ball from The Ambitious Card. I generally use it with my Johnson Product Chop Cup.


The Ball
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm227/BCSDenver/Stuff/MendozaSMBall001.jpg

Gaffed Ball on Cup
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm227/BCSDenver/Stuff/MendozaSMBall002.jpg

Ball Covered With Cup
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm227/BCSDenver/Stuff/MendozaSMBall003.jpg

The Reveal (the ball is still there)
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm227/BCSDenver/Stuff/MendozaSMBall004.jpg

I hope this helped… take care,
Bruce

By the way you can call me Tom... he is good a good guy!

Hi Bruce, what a complete post and detailed answer to my questions. My disappointment for the bust was relieved by Your kindness. At least, I haven't to start a new research. Now, I know that RNT2 Mendoza Cups were built to work with 1 1/8" balls (or maybe 1"). Perhaps You don't need but I hope to be that helpful to You in the future. A special thanks to You, Bruce but also thanks to all Cupscon community. Giuseppe Nastro.

Hi Bruce, I watched with more attention to the picture of the balls You sent. If I'm correct, the ball depicted is 3/4", maybe way too small for the Mendoza Cups. From previous searchs, I know the 3/4" balls work perfectly with the Johnson Chop Cup. Have You tryed to check and see if 7/8" balls work for good with Mendoza Cups? I suppose I'm stressing You but at the monent I only own a set 1 1/8" balls and You were the only person so kind to fully check both the Cups and the balls. Thanks again. GN.

GN… the balls that I tried was the smallest or closest to 7/8 that I have. Looking at the space within the Cup I don’t think that 7/8 balls would work. Maybe Bri  (mindyourmagic) can give it a go, he owns Mendoza Cups and I believe owns balls of all sizes.

I use the Monkey Fist balls for a Multiplication ball routine with the Johnson Chop Cup and the standard larger balls with my Mendoza Cups.

Good luck in your quest and share your results when you find them.

Thanks,
Bruce

Already answered on another forum Dean, just adjust your handling slightly.

Thanks, Bruce!

Hey! There's more than one Tom one here!!!!
Only joking, Tom is a great guy!

It depends on the ball. Some balls have magnets in them. Others have a steel shim, such as a carpet tack. If the ball has a magnet in it, the cup may pick it up.

Remember that the actual diameter of what a dealer or manufacturer calls 7/8 inch ball is closer to 1 inch, because ball sizes are usually quoted with respect to the diameter of the core.

A Morrissey 1 inch ball might work well with this if you adjust the magnet properly.

Someone from the Green Room PM'ed me with a similar question regarding Johnson cups. He was having trouble getting the Johnson Chop Cup to pick the ball up from the ungaffed cup. The balls supplied with the Johnson Chop Cup are about 7/8" diameter.  He also could not get the ball from the chop cup to work with the chop cup.

I have the set John Mendoza used on his DVD. So I tried it with those cups and balls. The balls were standard Johnson balls. They worked fine.

So I advised him to adjust the magnet in his cup. Instead, he chose to return them.  He figured that at that price the ball should have been adjusted from the factory.

Johnson cups are CNC machined. They are not handmade. I figure that we should be prepared to make minor adjustments in things we purchase if they are not perfect from the seller.

But that's just me. I'm sure some other people think otherwise.